Mambo vs WebGUI

olle22 · 28.07.2004, 08:41

I am planning to build a new site (800 pages) and can’t decide Mambo/WebGui.
I found this text in WebGui´s forum and wonder if someone could reply. Especially on the remark “they don't even have any caching mechanism yet, so serious scalability has to be questioned.”
I found Mambo very easy to get up running on a Fedora2 box, WebGui- then you really must know your “perl”.
Regards ,Olle

Here is the text from the WebGui forum:
Recently my friends are bragging about Mambo. Blah blah Mambo is better than WebGUI blah blah.

So anyone here that can tell me more about it? The diffrences or advantages or disadvantages? I am diehard WebGUI user, but sometimes I am jealous on the plugin-developement and the users of mambo. So many plugins, and so many people who uses mambo, better support than WebGUI i think.

Look at our webgui dev mailing list. Its not weird to receive nothing in a week.
Re: Mambo vs WebGUI
I'm not a Mambo expert, but my recent research to find a CMS found me choosing WebGUI.
The reasoning went like this:-
WebGUI - mature code base with a suite of fully functional modules to suit the requirements of a working site.
Mambo - barely out of beta, lots of great developement in diverse areas, but very little of it finished to production standards. - heck they don't even have any caching mechanism yet, so serious scaleability has to be questioned.
I know PHP is the flavour of the month and in a lot of cases easier to get running but if your site has business class requirements then maturity is all important.

Gambino · 28.07.2004, 08:59

Well,
If you ask the same question on a mamboforum (which u now did

)
people will prob. tell u that mambo is better.
I can not tell you because i dont have any experience or knowledge of webgui, but for me mambo is an excellent CMS, with a lot of working modules,components en although the caching isnt included (yet?) u can use for example a third party caching prog. on ur server which will do exactly the same. Send Optimizer is one we are using with www.tilbo.com...

edit:
How old is that article cause mambo is long go Stable

olle22 · 28.07.2004, 10:41

Thanks for a quick reply
The article is posted 7/26/2004 @ 5:20 am, you find it here:
http://www.plainblack.com/discuss?fu...mPostId=110346

Regards Olle

Gambino · 28.07.2004, 12:21

then dont believe them

when he typed it mambo has been long gone out of the beta fase

fuzzyfree · 28.07.2004, 16:09

Uhhhh.... If I'm not mistaken, Robert Castley did just add caching to the latest beta release of Mambo (4.5.1 Beta 3). And it should be included in 4.5.1 stabe which is do out in a week or so.

Not to mention... Mambo has always run VERY effieciently without page caching... but WebGUI NEEDS IT!!

PERL is hard on a server when you use it for large apps like WebGUI. That's why they make a big deal out of it! If they diddnt have cacheing , WebGUI wouldn't be useable. PHP does not need web cacheing to be effiecient... just good coding. Adding cacheing just made it even MORE efficient.

Take a look at this:
http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=11782

alterego · 29.07.2004, 18:43

That original quote looks out of date. Maybe they quoted it from an older message somewhere on another forum. Or maybe they just spoke outside their realm of experience, as indicated. Anyway, I considered webgui for some projects, but at the time, didn't have my own dedicated server available for those projects and was using a hosted environment, which wasn't suitable to webgui. It's difficult to set up, but is fine once set up. It was also a little too structured for my tastes, and to mess with the code required more perl knowlege than I could easily find. Plus, it's a resource hog, but if you have the resources, its not a problem.

Assuming you have the resources, it's not a big deal to install a couple of CMS's on a server, using subdomains, and work with them to see what works best. I've installed as many as 6 on a server, all running 'similar' themes to let the client/admins check them out and see what they liked/disliked. Mambo has been an overwhelming favorite in my relatively narrow cross-section of users.