yeah, but that still leaves you with a empty main...which isnt too much of a problem.
but i've been using dtree, and putting all of my menu items under seperators...erm...kinda hard to explain, just take a look:
www.beyondtheend.2webh.com/Mambo
anyway, as a result i cant actually asign a module to a particular menu item since they are subitems to the seperators, which were probably never really designed to have subitems. Works pretty nicely with dtree though...
ah well, thanks for the advice anyway, i was just hoping there was another approach...