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Old 08.09.2005, 22:00   #1 (permalink)
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Default Mambo/Joomla: incoherent support

Immediately after (and in some other case, some day before) the Joomla! announcement, many people fully involved in Mambo as moderators, administrators and members of the translation team, decided in public to follow the dev team and to stop their support to Mambo.

Their position respect to Mambo is very clear and they are strongly attacking Mambo ($ambo for them!) in the new opensourcematters forum.

Some of them ((I have the case of the italian community in mind, but it seems a more general problem)) are moderators there but, surprisingly enough, they continue to operate as moderator here and also in the official forum.

What's happening?
What's the Arthur opinion for such a incoherent behaviour?

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Old 09.09.2005, 18:11   #2 (permalink)
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Gin,

There has definitely been a split in this community, but from what I have seen the new Joomla project is supporting legacy code that pre-existed the split.

Going forward, I am sure we will all have to make a decision about which code fork we want to follow in order to get support for new releases.

I think we are all holding our breath, and waiting for first releases to come out, but I suspect that the efforts put forth by the Joomla team are going to far surpass any efforts that could possibly be put forth by anyone left at the Mambo project.

I also think that nearly all of the influential coders associated with Mambo (both dev team and 3PDs) have moved nearly in unison to the new Joomla project. I know of quite a few who are keeping a hand in both projects to see how far they can go with supporting both, but I really think that Ultimately the majority will maintain Joomla based code whenever the code forks diverge enough to require seperate releases of components and modules in order to support both.

It was a sad situation, but not surprising given the amount of control Miro was trying to maintain over the Mambo project.

I am watching both as well. I love the idea of community managed open source, where all are valued and all can contribute, but that is not a knockout blow for Miro/Mambo. They could still bring forth a top notch development team and continue to expand the capabilities and features in Mambo, I just seriously doubt thier ability to do so.

But.... watching carefully to see what happens next.

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Default Riferimento: Mambo/Joomla: incoherent support

Dear Gram,
thank you for your equilibrate reply (it is a very rare thing in this period).
I paid a lot of attention to the last events concerning Mambo and Joomla! and I know the situation you shortly described here but my question was a little more specific. I am sorry for the misunderstanding and maybe my english is not good enough.

I asked what to do with the moderators of this forum (for the italian section I could cite vamba and andreadesign) who decided to follow the Joomla! project and becoome moderators of the opensourcematters forum, started to fight against anyone spending a word for mambo.
Do they continue to remain moderators here?

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