MEDIC! I need a Chatroom Server...

[mambosolutions]

a long time ago I made a sinple flash chat and it has been downloaded over 25,000 times at www.flashkit.com

http://www.flashkit.com/movies/Scrip...6127/index.php

I evolved this into a mysql based version of the flash chat and added some basic admin functions

demo:

http://www.flashbuilder.ch/xoops/html/modules/phpchat/


the admin is simple saves chat logs like so:

Year/Week Number Of Messages Number Of Users Operations
200436 43 15 Delete View Archive
200435 55 19 Delete View Archive
200434 32 15 Delete View Archive
200433 29 13 Delete View Archive
200432 48 17 Delete View Archive
200431 33 15 Delete View Archive
200430 14 4 Delete View Archive
7 254 98 (totals)

the mysql version can be downloaded here

http://www.flashbuilder.ch/xoops/htm...wcat.php?cid=9

there is also the text file version there.

if thats all you need, there you go. if you desire more...it is open source..the .fla files and php scripts are also included in the downloads.

have phun

[Gayle]

I just looked over the Multi User Chat spec for Jabber...

The additional features and functionality addressed in this JEP include the following:

1. "native" conversation logging (no bot required)
2. enabling users to request membership in a room
3. enabling occupants to view an occupant's full JID in a non-anonymous room
4. enabling moderators to view an occupant's full JID in a semi-anonymous room
5. allowing only moderators to change the room subject
6. enabling moderators to kick participants and visitors from the room
7. enabling moderators to grant and revoke voice (i.e., the privilege to speak) in a moderated room, and to manage the voice list
8. enabling admins to grant and revoke moderator privileges, and to manage the moderator list
9. enabling admins to ban users from the room, and to manage the ban list
10. enabling admins to grant and revoke membership privileges, and to manage the member list for a members-only room
11. enabling owners to limit the number of occupants
12. enabling owners to specify other owners
13. enabling owners to grant and revoke administrative privileges, and to manage the admin list
14. enabling owners to destroy the room

Sound at all like familiar, something like the features of a "dead" protocol?

Jabber as an IM client is cool, closer inspection of Jabber as a chat server shows that it's basically IRC with the added bandwidth/processing overhead of XML.

Example, this is the sample for a new user entering a room with 2 other users...

<presence from='darkcave@macbeth.shakespeare.lit/firstwitch' to='hag66@shakespeare.lit/pda'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user'> <item affiliation='owner' role='moderator'/> </x> </presence> <presence from='darkcave@macbeth.shakespeare.lit/secondwitch' to='hag66@shakespeare.lit/pda'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user'> <item affiliation='admin' role='moderator'/> </x> </presence>

Or in IRC...

RPL_NAMREPLY #channel :@user1 user2
RPL_ENDOFNAMES #channel :End of /NAMES list

Much more bandwidth friendly, to the point where the running costs on a busy server would be significantly lower.

I like XML for some things but am not convinced it's necessary or desirable for a streaming protocol, it's very wasteful of resources.

[DeadZen]

This is true, I've since realized my dream of having a web based chat that is powerful and works with im, forums and irc... and does not use java or flash... supporting opera/safari/ie/mozilla ....

Anyway when I referred to IRC as a dead protocol, I didn't mean that in the sense that it's not used anymore just that. As a whole, the web especially in business don't go anywhere near IRC.

As an example in fact I made an IRC server send messages to connected clients for the simple reason that it can send 100,000 messages (as an oper) to all the users in very short time... maybe seconds... and people can tune into channels and a bot can send them all messages at once... Any new developer to that program that I wrote for that company I worked for then, immediately thought I was nuts.

Of course they could never out perform my setup because IRC is not multithreaded but is in fact a very fast event poll system that even today outperforms most communication systems...

I've since then stopped caring about what some people think about my ideas cause you and I both know you can't please everyone all of the time... and that it was a wise decision and the problem should be theirs for not understanding it....

Either way it's been years and they're still running my IRC based news feed keyword triggered message distribution system that all the java developers heckled...

Anyway about jabber, Google does use it heavily and since they have their pick, it does make you wonder why they decided to go with that as opposed to having their own, also I didn't see any great fail over setups for it besides eJabber, which actually required me to learn some erlang...

I'm releasing that code I mentioned as open source, and I
also wanted to just reply... sorry it didn't come sooner.

[briancharlie]

See if I like to add a chat server to my website (along with a flash conferencing facility) which doesn't have an enormous setup fee. I've seen a few free chat servers that are ad-supported, the one I looked at though had a $500.00 setup fee...!