[SCAM] - Again Rejuvinet.com steals someones money

[Cavallino]

More than a year ago me and my partner decided we needed a new website. So we went looking for a cms-package and found mambo. Since we didn't have the time we ordered a template and the installation of our cms with Rejuvinets Dave Daoust. He was even willing to give us a good price and we payed the first part USD 300,- through Paypal.

After that there was a rain of excuses for months. First why our project wasn't delivered within time, then after we cancelled it weeks, probably months after the delivery date, about why we hadn't got our refund yet. September last year was the last time I heard from him and I never saw my money again. Despite his promise to pay a refund.

Like Pericles I found several other people that have been ripped of by him too. Some of which were regular customers and thought Daoust was a nice guy.

For all te people here thinking Dave Daoust is the nicest guy and would never do anyone wrong. THAT IS EXACTLY THE POWER OF A PROFESSIONAL CRIMINAL, MAKE YOUR VICTIMS TRUST YOU FIRST. THERE IS A PATTERN IN HIS WAY OF WORKING AND SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED. I gave him a lot of chances and also tried the 'right' ways to solve this. And of course I've not always been a gentlemen to Dave Daoust after a while. But you can't expect people to remain nice against someone ripping you off.

With this post I want to warn everyone for him and ask Dave Daoust to come with a solution. Because my e-mails are being ignored and I see no other option. I just want my money back and no one will ever here from me again.

Sebastiaan Bos
sebastiaan@racesport.net

[RejuviNET.com]

First off, Sebastiaan, I never "ignored" your emails - I replied to every single one of them up until about 6 months ago when you stopped emailing.

I'd been through many a problem in the past year - most of which you are very aware of. In my last reply I'd stated that I will work things out with you - as I always did - as soon as I was in a position to. I'd offered to re-do the template with all of the upgrades and advances I'd been using. I'd also offered free templates and a free CLUBdesign membership, as a conciliatory gesture - all of this was offered, to which I received NO reply.

This is the first in more than 6 months that I have heard from you - well, this and the little email you sent "advising" me of the trashing you're doing of me on the forum.

I offered free product as a gesture of good-faith while I sort out the hosting and connection problems I'd been plagued with , and I never heard back from you. The only thing I've heard in the past 6 months was that you're here calling me a "professional criminal".

If that were the case, I wouldn't be here replying to this now, nor would I have extended that group of conciliatory gestures.

Whatever - I just went through a week of downtime re-locating to a new place and enduring delays with phone lines and Internet connections being transferred, and I have more pressing things to deal with than this. An easier way to have dealt with this was to reply to the email I sent you way back when - if the gestures I extended weren't good enough, you could have just said so instead of posting nonsense like this.

Despite your accusations, the conciliatory gestures stand just as they did then. It's your decision as to what you want to do with them.

Email me - it's a much more friendly way to deal with this.

[Cavallino]

First off, Sebastiaan, I never "ignored" your emails - I replied to every single one of them up until about 6 months ago when you stopped emailing.

I e-mailed you every day for several weeks to look if you'd respond then. I never got a reply. That was until a few weeks ago.

I'd been through many a problem in the past year - most of which you are very aware of. In my last reply I'd stated that I will work things out with you - as I always did - as soon as I was in a position to. I'd offered to re-do the template with all of the upgrades and advances I'd been using. I'd also offered free templates and a free CLUBdesign membership, as a conciliatory gesture - all of this was offered, to which I received NO reply.

You did offer a re-do etc etc but definetely not some CLUBdesign membership of free templates. All of that was to late by the time you offered it. By then our order was several months late and we didn't need it anymore. So you and I agreed on a refund which never came.

This is the first in more than 6 months that I have heard from you - well, this and the little email you sent "advising" me of the trashing you're doing of me on the forum.

That's a straight lie. I sent probably more then thirty e-mails to the same address and you only responded to the one that notices you about my warning on the web.

I offered free product as a gesture of good-faith while I sort out the hosting and connection problems I'd been plagued with , and I never heard back from you. The only thing I've heard in the past 6 months was that you're here calling me a "professional criminal".

As far as I know you are a professional criminal and until you haven't paid my money back I will make sure other people know this because I don't want others to be damaged.

If that were the case, I wouldn't be here replying to this now, nor would I have extended that group of conciliatory gestures.

In my eyes you're replying to this to keep you're image good so people remain buying things. That is a very good trick to influence people.

Whatever - I just went through a week of downtime re-locating to a new place and enduring delays with phone lines and Internet connections being transferred, and I have more pressing things to deal with than this. An easier way to have dealt with this was to reply to the email I sent you way back when - if the gestures I extended weren't good enough, you could have just said so instead of posting nonsense like this.

You again had problems and everyone should be really sorry for you, I know. Next to you being ill all the time, I haven't heard anything else from you for six months starting march 2004. It's not credible anymore.

Despite your accusations, the conciliatory gestures stand just as they did then. It's your decision as to what you want to do with them.

Email me - it's a much more friendly way to deal with this.

I did several days ago. Heard nothing since, this is not something I'm willing to spend a lot of time on. So if you just transfer the money to my paypal-account and you don't have to bother about me anymore. Otherwise you definetely should. I'm just a student and I need it back soon.

[anthonyaykut]

Let me guess: he kept putting you off by nice long emails, with a string of mishaps, problems, snow storms, modem/router breakdowns, etc. etc?? I mean, all we wanted was our logo on an existing template + our color scheme.

Dave Doust tried for a few months to try to pull off the same **** with us; but we caught him out by an age old trick... after he started replying to our emails really late or not at all, I contacted him from another email address, pretending to be a prospective client ... he immediately replied by saying any template we wanted would be ready "by the end of the week"... after he did that, I revelealed my true identity to him; he came back with some "I am so insulted" story, but he coughed up the template in the end (I think the same/next day) -- I think this part of the email got him moving:

Well now ... I am glad to see you are working hard!
Sad I had to resort to this (and may I say, one of the
oldest tricks in the book) to catch you out, but this
really is the last straw.

Between re-doing your site, ignoring my mails and
trying to take on more work you will not deliver, I
suggest if you find the time, please refund the money
I have paid you, or deliver the template, as promised
-- within 12 hrs. Failing to do so will result in the
following:

- Mail to PayPal and any other payment processors you
may use to warn them of your activities;
- Mail to your webhost/ISP/Registrar to warn them of
your activities;
- Mail to every big forum/board/site that relates to
Mambo + others to warn them of your activities;
- Contact any federal/government/police
office/instance in Canada and/or your region and/or
your Count(r)y to warn them of your activities;
- Contact any government office/body/instance/small
claims court where I can sue you to retrieve my money
back, including costs, not limited to any earnings
lost;

Please refund or deliver.

So there ...
Anthony

[RejuviNET.com]

Anthony, it'd be much more effective if you wrote what else I'd written in my response to your little "game" email...

When I said it'd be done in a week, I also stated that there may be a plus/minus of a couple of days because I was catching up on delayed projects. I could quote that here if you'd like - just in case you'd forgotten.

Yes, you'd gotten the template delivered the same day - not because of your little threat, but because I was working on finishing it at the time. While you were playing your little game, I was working on getting your project - along with 3 others at the time - completed and delivered.

So yeah, I guess working on making sure your template was delivered despite the delays and despite the threats makes me the bad guy.

If you really want to be successful at trashing me here Anthony, and jumping on the bandwagon, I'd suggest you tell the WHOLE story and not just a tiny part of it. You got your template delivered, with or without your little game and threats, and from what I remember you were happy with it. What's your motiviation on trashing me now?

Whatever - it doesn't matter.

Sebastiaan - the coniliatory offerings I gave aren't good enough? Fine.... Once I get things squared away and am able to send the refund, I will. Odd thing, though - I'm spending more time replying to emails asking what all of this garbage is about than I am doing the work that is needed to earn the money to send you a refund.

You're a student and need the money? I can understand that. I was one once too. I am now a father who has to provide for a family and have some necessary medical expenses to handle - I don't have time to waste on this type of thing.

Your "reasoning" on my being a "professional criminal" is ridiculous - but you can wrap yourself in that if it makes you feel better. Despite the issues I have had to deal with over the past year, I've steeled myself against quitting even though the thought has crossed my mind on several occasions.

Despite being held at the mercy of situations caused that are out of my hands - and always, ALWAYS having to be made out to be the bad guy for it - and being called names and enduring accusations like yours have given me more than enough reason to just throw my hands up in defeat. It'd be a lot less stressful, and I'd make a hell of a lot more money than I am now, if I just closed RejuviNET down. But I won't, and I am not going to, because it's not in my nature to quit just because someone's pissed off at me.

Being a quitter - THAT'S what makes me a professional criminal, Sebastiaan. Fighting through it all, and taking on all the pressure and stress that comes with having to deal with problems that other companies/individuals cause, and NOT quitting? That doesn't make me a criminal. It might make me stupid, but not a criminal. And I defy you or anyone else to endure what I have and keep trying to do what you love to do.

(btw - six or eight unhappy customers out of more than 300 happy clients is not acceptable, but it's a much better than many businesses I know, including some of the businesses that have caused me many of my problems)

Anyway, this is the last I'll write in this thread. I have more important things to deal with than having to defend myself against actions that were out of my control.

[Cavallino]

I'd very much like to know when I can expect my refund, because you've said that before. You aren't responding to my e-mails again either. So give me a date in this topic and everyone can witness if you keep your word or come up with excuses again. If you want to prove you're not a criminal show it.

[Cavallino]

It's months later again. Still I haven't got any replies from Dave, nor has he paid my money back. In the other topic, again, someone was fooled by Dave. Even after reading all the bad news about him. Hopefully people won't buy his crap anymore. I don't until I get my money back.

[RejuviNET.com]

See, you fail to see the fact that by posting statements like this you're shooting yourself in the foot. If you'd even bothered to check the website every once in a while, you'd see the updates on what's happening.

I'm finally getting things back on track, to a point where I can start sending people like you the refunds you're entitled to. But posting stuff like this only goes to serve nothing. You're making sure that I can't get the funds together to send you a refund.

Which is it you want? Do you want the refund, or do you want RejuviNET to fail, thereby guaranteeing that I can't send a refund? It's your choice, but you can't have it both ways.

I have put a tremendous amount of work into trying to rebuild RejuviNET where it is once again viable and I am able to issue the refunds that should be sent out - I am very close to making that happen. But with people like you who are trying to destroy that, I won't be able to - and you have the gall to try and blame me for the statements you make that prevent people from wanting to place orders. YOU are ensuring that you don't get your refund - not the other way around.

Make your choice.

[cyber_J]

before dealing be sure you check them first try
http://www.unlimited-backgroundcheck.com having one really helps prevent business scam, fraud, etc. but what annoy's me is to see my own record(driving,college,ssn)

[informative]

And I am another victim...going 2 years now back and forth with Dave at Rejuvinet. 2 years of the same excuses and promises to get my money back but site failure, health problems, large orders falling through. I have all the email threads and yet he reskins his site almost daily.

I read another thread where you Joomber members are defending Dave and that this is not a site to bash others.

WELL, DAVE bashes his hosting company and that seems ok????

Look, it's buyer beware. How many people in here have been scammed and there's not a whole lot WE can do...but file a complaint with the RCMP which a few of us already have but how long will that take?

At first I accepted his hardships and gave him a chance to finish my template but after waiting and waiting, nope no template. He's impossible to get a hold of unless you start complaining in his forums....then he responds yet with another set of excuses. Let me remind people, 2 YEARS OF THIS. Will he pay me back, nope.

Honestly, I don't understand what his problem is...he should be able to put out the templates with ease after so many complaints, I mean he is a pro at this right? Then there would be no need for our money back BUT NO TEMPLATES! It's amazing!

If any of you have gone through this ordeal, you would know how WE feel. WE tried to be nice and understanding but after waiting and waiting, nothing but excuses. I am surprised to see his responses to these messages in this forum and others...more excuses. It's incredible.

Sorry I have to post this but if you want to use Rejuvinet....you take your chances.