Macs rock Mambo

[mibi]

Riba,
Thanks!!!

[old_mac]

Originally Posted by Riba

There is also Opera which seems to be picking up pace since 7.5 came out.
I think it is safe to say that Safari is equivalent to IE in Mac world

I agree totally with Riba. I think we will see Opera come on very strong in the next year. Their alliance with Adobe can only help them. KDE and Apple are sharing code for KHTML, so Safari and Konqueror will be very close.

Gecko is a fast engine too, but the Mozillas have to get it stripped down and remove the bloat code. There have been some excellent examples like Camino.

Apple has an edge on all this with Safari in my book, since it already supports CSS3 as proposed. We will see a large move away from HTML when CSS3 is released this year. Safari will have at least a 6 month jump on any other browsers.

Watch for for some ground breaking announcements in this area at the Apple Developers conference in June.

Chris

[mibi]

Thanks Chris for keeping us up to date!!!

What is CSS3 and why do you believe that it will replace HTML?

[mmx]

While I have a captured audience of Mac users...has anyone had an experience getting the Spaw editor to work on a Mac. It only works with IE and I'm trying to find out if it works on the Mac versions of IE. If it does work, I need a few beta testers in a week or so.

Regarding the Admin JsCook, it is undergoing a change in 4.6. Over the past few days, adminmenu records started to appear in mos_menu and major changes were added to menubar.php. It looks like the menu will be completely dynamic in 4.6 if they continue this trend.

Regarding JsCook itself, the author is making an attempt to provide wide spread browser support. There is a note posted on his site about reporting problems directly. I'm not sure if the version of JsCook currently used in Mambo is updated to the most current release level.

[mibi]

Thanks mmx!!!

I hope you find several volunteers for doing some tests using Mac.

[mmx]

Robert Castley writes code on a Mac. It would be interesting to know which browsers he uses for testing purposes.

Originally Posted by mibi

Thanks mmx!!!

I hope you find several volunteers for doing some tests using Mac.

[stingrey]

I believe he uses firefox:
http://forum.mamboserver.com/viewtop...ht=mac+firefox

[old_mac]

Originally Posted by mibi

Thanks Chris for keeping us up to date!!!

What is CSS3 and why do you believe that it will replace HTML?

CSS3 is the new protocol for Cascading style sheets. I am sure you are aware that using them you can set all kinds of things for sites that effect the site on a global basis.

For example you can do your page layout and never use a table, you can float areas, float and layer images over text and do all kinds of font manipulation, background images, scrolling text over images, borders, boxes, rules, etc.

CSS 3 adds much on the functionality of HTML to CSS and it operates about 800% faster than HTML. It also will take on much of Javascript's capability.

For example you can make 4 stage roll-over images (menus) that are faster than javascript and do not hog memory with image preloads.
(Actually you can do this in now in CSS2 and not a line of javascript)

With CSS3 developers will have a new set of tools that will enable 99% separation of design from content. It will operate on all browsers that support CSS3. Browsers will either support the protocol or they will be dead cause this is the future of the web.

Thank heavens there will be no more Microsoft's way, navigator's way, and everyone else way. Its conform or take your browser and go home!

Chris

PS: All major browsers currently support CSS2.

[old_mac]

Originally Posted by mmx

While I have a captured audience of Mac users...has anyone had an experience getting the Spaw editor to work on a Mac. It only works with IE and I'm trying to find out if it works on the Mac versions of IE. If it does work, I need a few beta testers in a week or so..

Yes I found it does by mistake! I often change the User Agent in Safari and happened to set it to Widoz IE 6. I visited a site that used SPAW and up it popped! It looks great, but I did not test it, so I don't know if it works on Safari completely.

I have looked at the SPAW script and it dumps all bowsers other than Windoz version of IE 5.5 and 6. To play with this just comment out this code and it will attempt to load in any browser.

There just isn't a lot of Microsoft specific code in version 5.5 and 6.0 so I am sure with a little you could get it to work with other browsers.

In regards to jsCookMenu I have complained about to the author since this version came out, what is it 1.2.3.(2002) Also I started to complain about the use of it in Mambo back in version 4.2 I think.

Throw away Javascript and just do the menus in CSS2. They will be fast and work on all major browser. With CSS2 you can also retain all the fancy graphics in ThemeOffice or whatever.

Cheers

Chris

[mmx]

One of the objectives on the 5.0 roadmap is wider support for menus, so we'll have to see what happens there.

With 5.0, both the frontend and backend will use their own templates and CSS. The reliance on JsCook will probably disappear at this point.

4.6 appears to be a stepping stone in this direction. You can customize the CSS to give the backend a different look. One could probably build alternate menubar.php files and associated files to support other menu systems for 4.6. It is probably just a matter of putting in the time to do it.